Reality, Race and Ron Paul–addendum I was wrong, Ron Paul IS a racist!


I believe that property rights should be protected. Your right to be on TV is protected by property rights because somebody owns that station. I can’t walk into your station. So right of freedom of speech is protected by property. The right of your church is protected by property. So people should honor and protect it. This gimmick, Chris, it’s off the wall when you say I’m for property rights and states rights therefore I’m a racist. That’s just outlandish.

(Ron Paul on Hardball with Chris Matthews 13 May 2011)

With all due respect to the Distinguished Gentleman from Texas, I beg to differ.

Now, I’m not saying he a racist.


At this point I have to say that I do believe he is a racist. I certainly believe that he does not believe himself to be a racist. I have never met the man but I am willing to grant him the benefit of the doubt. It would be easier if he were a racist, in fact. I think he is a libertarian and that he truly believe that markets will, given the fullness of time, correct any social ill even one as deeply entrenched as segregation was in America, specifically in the Deep South. Racism was everywhere but Jim Crow was The Way Things Were in both a de facto and de jure since. America had had a century between the end of the Civil War and the year of my birth to run the experiment that Mr. Paul and other libertarians believe would have resulted in the kind of social changes that the Civil Rights Act brought about. The mere fact that the CRA and then the VRA were not passed until three years before I was born in the late-60s is ample evidence that the market had had plenty of time to work its magic.

In the year I was born, the Supreme Court got around to deciding that black people were human enough to be allowed to marry white people in every state in the nation. Most forms of segregation were no longer legal but were still de facto in force regardless of what the law said. We know how it played out. Mr. Paul says he is not a racist, I believe him. Rather, I think that Mr. Paul is simply indifferent to what it would mean for the market to take its time making changes without changes in the law. I accuse Dr. Paul not of racism but of callous indifference. Jim Crow wasn’t happening to him it was happening to other people. People who looked nothing like him and that he had no reason to identify with.

The Libertarian belief that markets would have dealt with the problem of segregation is demonstrated to be false with the following two thought experiments.

Scenario 1:

Imagine you are a white business owner in a town of, say, 20,000 in Alabama or Louisiana. You have a restaurant on the main drag and across the street is a competitor. In a moment of conscience you decide to desegregate your restaurant, your competitor across the street does not desegregate hers.

A day or two after you announce your decision and seat your first black customer like they were a human being and not some inferior species, you lose your serious pro-segregationist customers. Maybe the three or four guys at the auto shop down the street stop coming there. Only one or two of them are serious segregationists but they pressure the other two not to go. Maybe the clerk at the accountant’s down the block stops going because his kid got teased or beat up by the kids of one of the mechanics at the garage because his dad went to the integrated restaurant. Maybe the woman who runs the dress shop forbids her employees to go on threat of being fired. Maybe the gas station owner tells his black employees that if they ever set foot in the restaurant they’re fired. Would these kinds of things have happened? Yes, they would have. Mr. Paul seems to have not noticed that Jim Crow was a total system of segregation, it wasn’t just laws it was social pressure and social custom.

So here you are, trying to stay afloat. Your former customers are either too upset or intimidated to patronize you any longer, your potential black customers are bullied away from your door. Given the reality of this why on Earth would any rational business owner put themselves through this? Every libertarian will tell you that the purpose of a business is to make profits and if you are going to lose business on some deal because of social realities, you are not going to take that risk. Why would you since it is a lose-lose proposition?

Now some might object that this would only work in places where the community is such that this pressure would work. But a restaurant or motel along the interstate would have everything to gain and nothing to lose, right? Wrong.

Scenario 2

Now, admittedly, some place along the interstate may or may not have the same kind of social pressure (there is likely to be some no matter what) but the remoteness is going to mean that the idea that the market would only prefer integrated restaurants has no more basis in reality than the example above.

So you don’t work for a chain, you are a small, independent motel owner. There’s a restaurant on the premises. A black family pulls into your motel and suddenly there are no vaccines They have to move on down the road. Six months later they aren’t going to remember the name of your motel and, at any rate, for a boycott to work there would have to be a stream of blacks crossing the country by car. In the 60s blacks made up ~11% of the US population spread out over a vast swath of the North American continent. Most of your customers are white with the occasional black family pulling in. If you get a black family once a week (and I’m being VERY generous with that number assuming you are along a spot of, say, Interstate 80) and you turn them away you have not lost a lot of money. You’ve lost one customer. Even if that person complains to the NAACP you would see, at most, 52 black customers a year out of the hundreds that might be staying at your motel (say on average 5 rooms rented every night over the course of the year). If your margin is so tight that those 52 customers make a big difference over the course of your fiscal year, your business is in serious trouble and you should probably sell and get out now.

Libertarians, in making this argument, are taking the world of the early 21st century and casting the America after the Civil Rights laws were passed and pretending that the America of the 1960s would have behaved precisely the same as the America of the 2010s. There is no reason to believe that would have been the case.

I will not rehash the insults and assaults on our dignity that I watched my parents have to choke down on our trips across the country in the 1970s. Suffice it to say that until you have had to watch your parents explain why you have to sleep in the car when you’ve been passing motels all evening you have not had your fill of life’s cornucopia. It’s the kind of thing that stays with you even three decades later.

I am sure that Ron and Rand Paul are men of integrity and I take them at their word that they are not racist. In the limited sense that they do not harbor any active hostility towards blacks nor do they wish blacks–either in the particular or specific-any harm. I think they are simply untroubled by what the demonstrable conditions would have been had the civil rights laws of the 60s not been passed.

Here, then, is the core problem with both Libertarianism and Objectivist philosophy generally–it is callous and uncaring. It encourages callousness. One can believe, as Ayn Rand did, that blacks do not deserve to be discriminated against while at the same time being willing to observe that discrimination happening provided that it means that business owners have the freedom to discriminate in hiring or services on the basis of skin color.

One last point; if you are reading these words and are white consider this. How many of you have worked in companies where there were no blacks or other non-whites? Did you notice? Did you quit because of it? How many of you, when interviewing at some company, walked out because there were no whites or non-whites? How many of you have ever asked, upon walking into a store or hiring some service if there are any blacks or other non-whites employed? How many of you have walked out of some store or refused to do business with this or that company because you could not see any non-whites working there?

If you are honest with yourself, I am willing to bet that the number of you who have done any of those things is the the whole integer between -1 and 1. Not because I think you are racist but because I think you are white in a nation that was, in fact, overwhelmingly white and is still a majority white nation although that majority is nowhere near as absolute as it was 40 or 50 years ago.

The Libertarian view of what would have worked regarding the dismantling of Jim Crow in the United States is not even wrong. It gets it wrong on the history, it gets it wrong on the economics, it gets it wrong on the sociology and it gets it wrong on the demographic realities of the situation.

All of the above can be true without ever saying that Dr. Paul or, for that matter, any Libertarian who believes as he does, is a racist.

8 thoughts on “Reality, Race and Ron Paul–addendum I was wrong, Ron Paul IS a racist!

  1. I’m not a Paul fan or a Libertarian and by happen stance caught the interview w/Matthews. I don’t believe Paul is a racist either and in fact he made a valid argument by pointing out that Gov’t laws made the civil rights act a necessity and he wouldn’t have supported those either. I can appreciate their argument of gov’t overreach and you nailed it when you said libertarinism is callous and uncaring. My problem is with Matthews, MSNBC and all the MSM. Instead of articulating a valid argument against libertarinism like you did above they attempt to discredit by making Paul out ot be no better than a 60′s segregationist. Like you said, all of the above can be true without ever saying that Dr. Paul or, for that matter, any Libertarian who believes as he does, is a racist. Racist no, niave Yes!

    • I agree with you. I think that too often people with whom I agree with on policy take the intellectually lazy way out. Matthews and I would, most likely, agree on far more points of public policy than Dr. Paul and I. Yet, when he–or pretty much anyone else–takes the lazy way out and calls a person with an opposing view a racist it does far more harm than good. Firstly, it shuts down any hope of getting through to the middle. “Liberals think anyone who disagrees with them is a racist” is a powerful charge. Secondly, it desensitizes people to the word ‘racist’. The Tea Party/GOP chairwoman from California who sent around the picture of Obama and his parents as a chimp is expressing racism. She should be called out for it. Like you say, he’s no racist. Touchingly naive and too comfortable with the idea of discrimination going on indefinitely in the name of property rights and freedom.

  2. I do not think he is a racist but i do think he is an ideologue and like any ideologue, he will defend the ideas he believe in even in situations when they do not work because he will find a reason/way to either dismiss those circumstances or wont hold them to the level they deserve. Reason to why is best explained in this wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

    There is an exception to every rule and everybody but the ideologues will refuse to acknowledge any occurrence of an exception simply because they do not want to pock holds at their ideas.

    There need to be a few among us who live at the far end of the extreme and who see every issue in black and white to show the rest of us where the boundaries are. The society works best if these kind of people are around and are in the minority. We can only be thankful he and the position he is holding is a minority one.

    They say those who forget history repeat it, his positions forces us to remember history and be vigilant against it repeating itself and hence he is doing all of us a favor.

  3. Great Article, Your argument is clearly laid out and i mostly agree with you.
    however it think theres much more to talk about. I consider myself a libertarian;
    Which means i believe we were given universal rights from our creator;not no law or government or politician.
    M.X said it best
    ‎”If it doesn’t take senators and congressmen and presidential proclamations to give freedom to the white man, it is not necessary for legislation or proclamation or Supreme Court decisions to give freedom to the Black man.”
    and i believe in the non aggression axiom; a la im free to “do me” unless “doing me” affects your god given rights; so me and you will disagree on some things.
    yes us libertarians might come off as callous because we rarely believe in public safety nets;or as i like to cal social security; a form of generational based slavery.
    Jim crow laws were horrible,yet they were instituted by government.they were the lynchpin of segregation;and the legal hydra head of the abhorrent practice of racism. its was the government that institutionalized slavery. every libertarian i know is 100# against the Jim crow laws. Government shouldn’t see people in groups; or claim because were black that were only 3/5th a person.. that was the horrible legal precedent;of a democratically controlled south.

    We live in a free society and people have the right to be boorish and evil. they also have the right to association.

    i think the CRA was great piece of legislation; it removed color from government… except for title 2 which oversteps the rights of individuals; its even written vague, it allows “private clubs,yet doesn’t define what they are. talk about a loophole.

    that being said i also believe in civil disobedience; if it wasn’t for those righteous freedom fighters;America would never live up to its ideals; ide maybe still be typing on a black only keyboard

    all men are created equal, and all deserve a fair shake.

    on a side note… just a observation.
    i think though. 2011 vs 1964…Racist institutions would be ticketed would be disrespected,sat in, vandalized, and untimely go out of business. if the only grocery shop in town is racist…. buy your groceries on the internet and have them shipped to you… :) couldn’t do that in 1964, but we can in 2011,
    we would use the internet to find racist free hotels;. we are at that age; i can buy everything i need on the internet;and the only face i see is the UPS guy.

    • You make some good points, however, you forget that while there were laws Jim Crow was true in both a de factor and de jure sense. There was never a law on the books mandating that restaurants not serve black people, they just didn’t do so. There were never laws saying that certain companies didn’t hire black people, they just didn’t. There were never laws mandating that gas stations have separate and inferior facilities, again social custom kept that system going and if title II of the CRA had never been conceived of, those social customs would have continued.

      In fact, I want to talk about employment because that seems to be a blind spot a lot of libertarians have in this area. I have spent most of the last two decades working in information technology, most of that time as a UNIX system admin. I can count, on both hands, every single other black person I have worked directly with. I can count on all of my digits the black people who have been employed contemporaneously with me regardless of department. In that time I have worked in companies as small as a dozen people and as large as 10,000. I am the *only* other black at my current employer who has ever worked on the technical side of the house and the only black woman who ever has. This company has been around since 1985. Most of my coworkers who have been there over 10 years very happily came and went to work day in and out without ever giving the slightest thought to the idea that the company was overwhelmingly white. I bring this up not to suggest that my company is run by racists nor is it to say I am an affirmative action hire (hopefully I’m not). Rather, I am arguing that this idea that if the CRA had not been passed economic pressure would have, in the fullness of time, resulted in workplaces that are more diverse even *if* large companies had an unstated policy never to hire blacks for any but the most menial jobs.

      Taking your UPS example, let’s say that UPS had such a policy. They don’t have it posted on the door, they just don’t hire blacks. Let us say this is legal. Would you even notice? I’m not saying as a UPS worker but as a customer! I doubt you would. I doubt most people in America would. Would you stop doing business with UPS if the NAACP started a campaign to boycott them or would you take the position that as a private employer UPS is free to hire whom it feels and if it deems blacks unqualified such is their right, you aren’t going to put yourself out and pay hire prices with, say, FedEX? I doubt you would. Again, this can be perfectly true and you be dedicated to the idea that all people are endowed by their creator to equality before the law. Let’s say that you work for UPS. You realize that you have *never* seen a black employed as a driver, a pilot, management, IT, or in any other function except, perhaps, janitor. Would you quit your job in protest? The likelihood of that is a probability almost identical to zero (while not actually being zero). So at what point is there going to be economic pressure on UPS to change its ways? It’s not coming from the customers nor is it going to come from the employees.

      So you then get this logic: there are no black pilots flying for UPS. UPS has hired no black pilots. Since employers always act in economically rational ways, it must be the case that there are no qualified black pilots. Therefore UPS shouldn’t hire black pilots. If there were qualified black UPS would hire them.

      This logic need not be true for people to believe it. In fact, this was the de facto employment situation in America *before* the CRA was passed. My parents were brilliant people and there were colleges (they were professors) that would never have hired them because they were black.

      Now, you might be tempted to argue that if this were the case those employers would lose out because they would be missing *some* very bright and talented potential employees that happened to be black. This is true. However, I would argue that it is vanishingly improbable that this would have any economic impact unless you are going to suggest that blacks, as a whole, are so overly blessed with talent and competence that any one of us chosen at random is going to be more competent than any white chosen at random. I do not think that argument can be made. Some of us are exceptionally talented and some of us aren’t.

      You might also be tempted to argue that blacks could just start their own businesses but this is predicated on banks treating black fairly. Even *with* laws in place forbidding this kind of behavior banks demonstrably discriminate against blacks. If my partner, who is white, walks into a bank and tries to get a loan she is *far* more likely to be approved than I am even though I take home in a year what she makes, pre-taxes, in two. Again, libertarians would argue that while it may be regrettable that this is the case nothing should be done in a legal sense.

      So let’s say you are trying to get a loan for some reason. Bank A is offering a fixed rate of 2% but will not loan to, hire or patronize blacks. Bank B is offering a fixed rate of 4% but does not discriminate. Are you going to go with Bank A or B? Chances are you’re going to go with A because while it is nice to have the sentiment that Bank A shouldn’t discriminate, as long as you can get a loan from Bank A why on Earth would you double your mortgage, say, by going to bank B since you don’t have to? For an ideological camp that seems to think that economics answers everything and that people in the market always behave rationally, Libertarians seem to have some non-trivial blind-spots about actual market behavior.

      Now, I have described discrimination in the market place that is not backed by law but is simply de factor Jim Crow. I have also described the circumstances under which this perpetuates itself even though people of very goodwill may wish it to be otherwise. The benefit my argument has is that we *know* how this experiment played out, two people I know who lived through that experiment are now dead but only in the last 12 years or so. Meaning that from 1922 to 1999 (for my father) and 1922 to 2007 (for my mother) they watched this actually play out in real time. My father never bought a GM car because back in 1952 the Chevy dealership in the town he and my mother lived in would not sell him a car. Did that make that dealership go out of business? No. Did that make GM go out of business? No. GM did just fine as did the dealership.

      While your sentiment that all men are created equal and that all deserve a fair shake are both noble, they do nothing to change the equations above. You are taking 2011 conditions and retrospectively placing them back in 1961 and saying that the same dynamics that might play out today would play out then. Since Internet access did not become widespread until the nineties and did not become ubiquitous until the early part of the 2000s would you have been content, under the name of freedom of association, for businesses to not hire blacks because they were black even to this day?

      Again, I’m not saying that you think this businesses *should* behave this way only that it seems you would not be particularly troubled if they *did* behave this way.

  4. as a fellow IT person on the voice UC side., i have had the same experiences albeit ive only been in the job market since 2003 ; but the landscape is changing; most of the CCIEs coming out today arent white;the majority arent black ;but they’re minorities nonetheless.

    i agree,there was no specific laws barring people from eating or patronizing certain establishments; but i think most of that came from the3/5ths clause. but yeah your right.they go hand in hand.
    if the govt okays being a racist, then being a racist is fine right? im sure this mentality had to do with it.

    my point wasn’t to frame the issues in today’s terms then;
    rather the difference between society now and then. it has changed by heaps and bounds;
    some of that was caused by an overreaching section of the civil rights act.; but it is the law of the land; it was for the betterment of society;i don’t argue against that

    but from a philosophical point of view u cant coerce or force people to be good; the government shouldn’t have that power;
    curious on your opinion on social security? consider that slavery?

    • Actually, I think that racism would exist regardless of the actual legal environment. I think that in this case you may be putting the causal horse before the effect cart. I think that racist ideas created a government that legitimated racism, not that a government that legitimated racist ideas created the environment for a racist society.

      As far as social security I do not consider it slavery, I consider it intelligent and sane social policy.

      I understand the appeal of libertarian ideas just as I understand the appeal of communist ideas. Both are appealing idealizations about how best to organize human society. In both instances I agree with the great biologist, E.O. Wilson who when asked his thoughts on communism said “great idea, wrong species”. I think both libertarianism and communism are very appealing ideas and would be workable for orangutans and ants respectively. Orangutans are not social primates, they are relatively solitary for primates, in fact, and if humans were more closely related to a less social primate I would say that our evolutionary bias would be toward libertarianism. In that case, it would be intellectually appealing, workable and intuitively obvious. If we were more closely related to ants and had much more genetic interests in common than we do, then the same would apply to communism. We are neither. So there is a trade-off that has to be negotiated in human societies between freedom and equality.

      This leads to the point about social security. I split the difference and where we must put a little of our will on the scales of history, I favor–in most cases–erring on the side of equality. In this case, it’s more along the lines of erring on the side of social prudence. A society that is willing to throw people to the tender mercies of the marketplace without any manner of social safety net, simply because some group of people might threaten to ‘go Galt’ if people they consider foolish, shortsighted, or parasitical starve or are otherwise deprived of the means to at least sustain themselves. It is not slavery because you, also, derive benefit from being in a society that is stable and which provides infrastructure which you could not provide for yourself. You are not going to build and maintain the route you take to and from work or to and from the market. You are not going to build and maintain the electronic infrastructure that brings power and information to your home. You benefit from the fact that we live in a civilized nation just as I do. Social security and other forms of social safety nets are a recognition that people can find themselves, for reasons entirely beyond their own control, in situations where they are in economic dire straits. You may say that we should leave the relief or amelioration of that kind of thing to churches. I would reply that churches can and will use that power to convert people who will feel compelled to do so if it means feeding their children. Again, we’re not talking about a solution in the most Panglossian world because we have only Homo sapiens to work with.

      Libertarians are partially correct in as much as a society must be willing to allow people the freedom to succeed or fail on their own merits. However, they miss that part of the success and failure of individuals lies in living in a society that provides the infrastructure upon which humans can do so.

  5. Pingback: Whose liberty? | Black Hypatia